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 12/08/2008 9:57 PM
 
Hi there,
 
I bought this module recently and have now given it a good workout and have feedback and suggestions should it be further developed.
 
I like the idea of the module and it suits the way I use DNN. Part of this is that non-admin users are meant to be able to easily manage their content. This module obviously replaces the use of a Text module for the purpose of listing contact details. In order to add value for the user however, it has to be easier to use and/or produce better results than the module it replaces.
 
I think it is clearly more difficult for an end user to type their information into, but the promise is that the output will look better without anyone having to format anything.
 
My assessment finds this is only partially successful. I'll paste in my notes here:
  • Needs the Configure Module link displayed as an action button.
  • Contact/email Form needs to be bigger
  • Form needs to validate against empty submissions
  • Having to specify icon size confuses things.
  • Having to specify table column sizes confuses things.
  • Both of the above issues also cause too much going in and out of the settings to try and get the labels and fields looking right. The way the generated tables are nested and padded or not padded makes it difficult to get everything spaced evenly. It took a lot of changes in the ascx to get it looking tidy.
  • Expanded map view needs to float over the page content rather than break the page.
  • Needs sort order function - this is a real killer - can't add an item inbetween existing ones
  • Need to be able to pre-set defaults somewhere - or have better defaults
  • Small map doesn’t center on target
  • Map only shows general area. Google map would be better as it allows a pin to be placed on the target.
  • Map adds several blank divs at the bottom of the page causing a gap of about 40 odd pixels
  • Too hard for unskilled user to add email address because they need to know how to create a mailto: link
I think it really needs some options firmed up with good defaults so that users don't have to experiment to get things looking right. Ideally the user would go into the settings just once, type their contact info into a wizard, and get a good looking result. My efforts can be seen in action here: http://winesafe.wonderwebs.com/Contact/tabid/862/Default.aspx  I'm happy enough with the results, but the issue is that it took a lot of work in the ASCX files to get it looking like that, and I can already hear the groans when the user finds out he has to delete fields to add another one further up. I'm probably not going to use the module at this point, but I'll leave it on the page there until you've had a glance.
 
In short - I think it's a great idea to make modules that assist non-technical people create clean and tidy content, but this one ultimately misses the target by way of the points detailed here. I'll be keen to see more modules like this however, so don't be put off by this.
 
Kind regards,
Rob
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 13/08/2008 5:12 AM
 

Thanks for the post Rob.

 

We are listening.

 

We have just released an update that gives control over the sort order. This we thought was the number 1 issue out of what you requested.

 

We have added work items to our list for most of your other items, and we are thinking about including the lightbox effects for the form.

 

This module uses MS maps, and was first released to tap into their services just after they created them. We now find their services are lagging way behind Google... . and... we get very ticked off with MS that every search returns a result for USA. (MS... Sydney is not only a town in USA... see 2000 Olympics). So now we will do Google maps.

 

The only item of your post we do not agree with is the email address item. We believe that you should never list your email address. This is why the form feature is included. If this does not meet your needs, then link it to a Feedback Designer module found on this site.

 

We are not saying just when all this will be done, but we have started with a release today.

 

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 14/08/2008 3:37 AM
 
I had that search issue as well.. Wellington keeps showing up as in the states somewhere.
 
Thanks for the positive reply, I look forward to future updates!
Rob
 
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 14/08/2008 11:56 PM
 
Hello again
 
Just one more thing to add to this. I've just noticed this after installing the new update.... The Icon selector allows the user to browse folders and files they haven't got view permissions for.
 
I reckon that with the goal being to make it dead simple to create a clean standardized layout of contact details, this icon selection option could perhaps be made a lot simpler. Could it maybe just display the contents of the icons folder inside the module folder. I would prefer to create and upload a selection of 2 or 3 icons for each type of field into there and then simply let the user choose from that. Not requiring the icon size setting would also simplify this further.
 
Alternatively, the quicker fix might be to use the core upload control, as that would presumably follow view and upload permissions... I'm no developer however, so forgive me if that's incorrect.
 
Regards,
Rob
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 15/08/2008 9:33 PM
 
And one more quick note to add to this...
 
The problem with the 40+ pixel gap being add to the bottom of the page can be dealt with by adding this to the css:
 .ero-leftBeak,.ero-progressAnimation{display:none}
 
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 17/08/2008 3:27 PM
 
A short term fix, is to navigate to a map view and paste the URL into the module as a map url. This is a feature of the module in it's current state.
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 31/08/2008 11:01 PM
 
Do you mean I can paste a google map url in there... or was this referring to another way to put the MS map in.
Rob
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 1/11/2008 4:05 AM
 
That is another way of purring the MS map into it.
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